Sans Crainte Signature

Of the Land Deeds and Treaty's of one that I am Sure of the Signature of Jean Baptist (Bt) Sans Crainte or his son of the same name Is The "Treaty Of Greenville" . This Signature is compared to others that I believe to be valid for The father or Son, one or more of these Papers ( First Nation deeds) are probably attributed to both

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Saturday, October 25, 2014

Letter To Ypsilanti Historical Society (Pub)

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Atten:Tom Dodd,  I want to thank you for publishing A Sanscrainte Timeline, for I have terrible English and spelling an struggle with my blog, never the less i have spent a great amount of time studying my ancestors, my grandmother was a Sancrant (Sans Crainte). I knew well of him and his father from the stories my dad, Dennis Lajiness, told me as a boy some almost 50 years now. The Stories were so amazing that even to us we would joke that this was just another self promoting Lajiness. but as i got older and the age of computers I was instantly immersed in them even building my own with parts from the trash, but the trimming was perfect for me for this was about the time everybody started digitizing historical books and articles. i was on the ground floor and started connecting the dots
and I realized that there was "Truth" to the stories, Sans Crainte was a famous Interpreter (more so the father). The father probably the one that had signed the Treaty of Greenville, the son and father had much influence with the Indian probably because the grandmother Margaret Descomps dit Labadie  Married Claude Solo (1732 - 1799), Jan 22, 1759 and died Apr., 1765 . She Died When his wife (Margaret Solo b 3 May 1761), Is said to have resided at Coast of the Pottawatomies (Denissen), was only 4 so she was raised by her Father Claude Solo second wife was raised by her step mother who was a  Sauteuse Indian and she had a stepbrother by her. Anyway to get back to the story. My father also told me of the story of Pierre Roy and that he was at Detroit  before Cadillac, he even told me driving down I 75 from Detroit one time as a child "There that Island, the one just south of Belle Island, That is where our family comes from. remember this was a long time ago and we were poor and did not travel to go to library to study this and my Dad grew up during the depression, the only time he got out of Luna Pier Mi was to hitch hike to Catholic Central high School in Monroe. even his dad Preston Lajiness walked to Monroe down the tracks to work when he wasn't walking them to pick up coal that fell from the coal cars. So when i found out that everything he had said, and I'm still finding out, has been true, where i find discrepancies i dig tireless to prove them.
   In your article "Have NO FEAR; J.B. Sanscrainte was here!" You write  "Until the Fall 2009 publication of GLEANINGS, most readers were content in their understanding that Gabriel Godfroy was the first European to settle what is now Ypsilanti. All that has changed as..."
"When Karl Williams was a student in EMU’s Historic Preservation Program, he noted in the Fall 2009 GEANINGS, “As indicated in Hugh Heward’s 1790 journal, Gabriel Godfroy was both aware and involved with the trading post established by Jean Baptiste Sanscrainte at Ypsilanti as early as 1790…”   As You can see I Published that and more including the Sans Crainte timeline at my blog "Indian Trader and Interpreter: In 2020 Ypsilanti" This was in May obviously before fall when everything changed, I bring this up for two reasons, one, since I am outside of academia and have problems with English i am often overlooked and I makes it that much harder to access information.
  The Canadian French Metis ( Métis (/meɪˈtiː/; Canadian French: [meˈtsɪs]; Michif: [mɪˈtʃɪf]) are one of the recognized Aboriginal peoples in Canada) as they were squeezed by the Rebels and the British and colonist, many suffering the same fate as the Indians
 In that spirit it has come to my attention of another claim that the story of "Without Fear"  "Digging deeper: Ypsilantian Michael Van Wasshnova, a history buff and member of the Monroe County Historical Society, relayed our “Sanscrainte” story to his compatriots in Monroe who said, “Certainly! Sanscrainte was a promotional alias Jean Baptiste had adopted to further his trading in the American wilderness.” His real name, they reveal, was actually Jean Baptiste Saint Romain." This i find to be totally without Merit!!! Bt Sans Craint as he was known did not in any records I have seen have Saint in his name regardless of where he came from as for the self promoting, he did not have to do that he had influence over tribes of Indians as well as his father. My father said The Indians called him Strong man without fear and it is a mater of fact that this was undoubtedly true in Dappers records when he was begged to go to the falls with Pontiac's son, Dapper himself not favorable to him remarks how he was a big and imposing figure, It is said he saved many life during the war of 1812 and with his influence on the Indian and If there is any Doubt that he was not a strong man without fear as a Boy of eleven he and his father helped set up missions all through out western Lake Erie where only rugged men and Indians ruled.
  Something to note , i have taken a brake from my Genealogy for years to write 300 songs but when i was into the thick of it I studied the first hundred at Quebec and realized they were all almost related, in fact the first permanent settler in Canada Louis Hebert, Champlain's apocrathy, also my ancestor is the father of many that came to Detroit Via the Fur trade and The Jesuits to set up missions and those people part of the Fur trade Dynasty married within that Dynasty as it happen Pierre Roy first at Detroit and Sans Craint at Monroe and many more it is no wonder they are both ancestors, this and a dime will get you a cup of Joe, Not. But for me to Justify an existence, to give reason, to tell the stories and pass them unmolested, and the greatest reward to find that men of Courage and substance place a cross, over looking a cliff, that they say is the most beautiful spot in all of Canada and for me not that it bear at the foot a coat of arms to claim the land but for what that cross represents. Thank You Kindly Happy Hunting   Kevin C Lajiness , edit some mistakes 3/15/2015, sorry wasnt fresh and some of it is confusing, may have to edit again. 

Thursday, October 23, 2014

The Lake Erie Cross-"There is assuredly, they say, no more beautiful country in all Canada. It is the Earthly Paradise of Canada" (Monsieur Dollier),

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"The Lake Erie Cross 

during the following April. There is some ground for the surmise 
that the missing men deserted to La Salle. 
The priests and the remaining seven men descended the Grand 
River, six in the canoes or dragging them through the shoal water, 
the others following the trail along the bank. Lake Erie seemed to 
them like a great sea. The wind was strong from the south. There 
was perhaps no lake in all the country whose billows rose so high as 
Lake Erie, because, as Galinee naively suggests, of its great depth 
and its great extent. 


They wintered just above the forks where Black Creek joins 
the River Lynn, otherwise known as Patterson's Creek, at Port 
Dover. The exact spot was identified in August, 1900, at a meeting 
of the Norfolk Historical Society. Slight elevations indicate the 
outlines of the building. Trenches for drainage are quite distinct. A 
slight depression in an embankment shows where the door stood, 
near the little rivulet where they got their water. 


Iroquois hunters visited them during the winter and admired 
the structure, which was dwelling-house, chapel, granary and forti- 
fication all in one. They stored their granary with some fifty bushels 
of walnuts and chestnuts, besides apples, plums, grapes and hack- 
berries. They made wine of the grapes. It was as good as vin de 
Grave, and was used for mass. The rivers were full of fish and of 
beaver. Deer roamed the meadows in herds of a hundred. Bears 
were abundant, fatter and of better flavor than the most savory pigs 
of France. No wonder that the worthy priests are enthusiastic over 
the country. There is assuredly, they say, no more beautiful 
country in all Canada. It is the Earthly Paradise of Canada. 

Their dwelling-place was a beautiful spot on the bank of a rivulet, 
five-eighths of a mile inland, sheltered from the wind. They set up a 
pretty altar at one end of the cabin. There they heard mass three 
times a week without missing a single time. "You may imagine," 
says Galinee, "the consolation we experienced in seeing ourselves 
with our good God, in the depths of the woods, in a land where no 
European had ever been. Monsieur Dollier often said to us that 
that winter ought to be worth to us, for our eternal welfare, more 
than the best ten years of our life." 

On Passion Sunday, 23rd March, 1670, they all proceeded to 
the lake shore to make and plant a cross. At its foot were placed 
the arms of the King of France, with a formal inscription setting 
forth how the two Seminary missionaries and seven other Frenchmen 
had been the first of all Europeans to winter on the lake, and how 
they had taken possession of it in the name of King Louis XIV, as 
an unoccupied country, by attaching his arms to the foot of the cross."

    To me the cross is the single most powerful symbol in history
with the single most powerful message, That of sacrifice
and unconditional love (Kevin Lajiness)

Monday, October 20, 2014

Pierre Roy, was at Detroit before Cadillac (Pontiac was a Typo) and he married a Miami named Margaret Ouabankikoue

It was Said That Pierre Roy, My Ancestor, was at Detroit before Cadillac (Pontiac was a typo) and he married a Miami named Margaret Ouabankikoue, this was told to me by my father as a child and the marriage was confirmed to me much later in life , now i have found the evidence that shows he was at Detroit before Cadillac.
From the evidence below it is clear to me that the father of the Detroit Pierre Roy traveled to the Detroit area more than once and probably brought his son, who would of been old enough to get involved romantically, my father did mention Belle Isle but said "our people came from the Island just south of there" This is further substantiated by the record of  M. Louis Joliet  (the first explorer who passed up Detroit River) his 
account also below
"1668. — Claude Dablon and Jaques Marquette established a permanent
mission at Sault St. Marie, and during the succeeding five years
Allouez, Dablon and Marquette explored the south shore of Lake
Superior and west of Lake Michigan, founded the missions at
Michilmackinac and Green Bay, (the " Baie-des-Puens " of the
French.) Dollier and Galina erect a cross at the foot of Belle Isle,
engraving thereon the French coat of arms. They left Pierre Roy
and Francois Pelletre."Digitized by the Internet Archive
in 2008 with funding from Microsoft Corporation
IN THE History of the Northwest Territory AND WAYNE COUNTY.

"Even Though the date is to early for this Pierre Roy that was at Detroit (Belle Isle)
 in 1668 while they were setting up missions in the territory and erected a cross and 
the French coat of Arms, This counter-dicks Cadillac and the Authors  statements that
no one has ever visited this part of the country before 

Historical Collections, Volume 33 (Google eBook)

Front Cover

The Society, 1904 - Michigan
"Pierre Roy / LeRoy / Royer / Poitevin / St.Lambert: (1638/42 - 1721) 
He was the son of Charles Roy & Jeanne Boyer, born in La Rochelle, France. Pierre married Catherine Ducharme (daughter of Jean DuCharme & Ann Lelievre) in 1672 at Montreal. Their children were: Marguerite (1674-1749), Anne (1676-1729) (m. Andre Babeu/Beauf in 1689), Pierre II (1676-1743) (m. 1st. to Marguerite Ouankikove/Ouabankiknove in 1705 and 2nd. to Marie-Angelique Faye-Lafaillette)

Pierre I was hired in 1692 by the Jesuits to go to the 8ta8ois and in 1696
 he was hired by Dumez, Trudeau & Benoit to the same tribe"

Landmarks of Wayne County and Detroit.
Robert B. Ross;view=fulltext
"M. Louis Joliet was the first explorer who passed up Detroit River"
"We the undersigned, certify that we have seen the arms of the king of France set up on the lands of the lake called Erie, at the foot of a cross with this inscription: ' The year of salvation 1669..."

 "M. Louis Joliet was the first explorer who passed up Detroit River and left a clear record of the trip. He made a trip from La Chine, above Montreal, to Niagara in July, 1669, and after visiting several Indian villages of the Senecas in that vicinty, he set out with three canoes and a company of seven men for a voyage of discovery. In his party were Fathers Galinee and Dollier, two priests of St. Sulpice; they made the trip in safety and passed up the Detroit River to Lake St. Clair early in 1670. Reports of their discoveries are but meager, but in the preserved correspondence of Father Gallinee there is an account of their discovery of an idol on the banks of the Detroit River, about six leagues from Lake Erie, at or near the site of the city of Detroit. It was a carved stone image, which the Indians undertook to propitiate by offerings, as it was supposed to exercise some influence over Lake Erie. The pious fathers fell upon it with great zeal and destroyed it at the expense of their hatchets, subsequently scattering the fragments in the river. Their pious zeal destroyed what would have proved a most interesting relic for the Detroit museum. A stone idol in this part of the country would appear to be a relic of a race much older than 10
Page  11the Indians who occupied the territory when the French arrived-a race whose relics are rare and highly esteemed by archaeologists. They prepared the following certificate of discovery while on this trip and it was filed in the archives of state at Quebec. "We the undersigned, certify that we have seen the arms of the king of France set up on the lands of the lake called Erie, at the foot of a cross with this inscription: ' The year of salvation 1669, Clement IX being seated in the chair of St Peter, Louis XIV reigning in France, Monsieur de Courcelles being governor of New France, and Monsieur Talon being intendant for the king, two missionaries from the seminary of Montreal having arrived at this place, accompanied by seven other Frenchmen, who, the first of all the European nations, have witnessed on this lake, of which they have taken possession in the name of their king as an unoccupied land, by setting up his arms which they have affixed at the foot of this cross. In witness whereof we have signed the present certificate: " Francois Dollier, priest for the diocese of Nantes in Britanny; " De Galinee, deacon of the diocese in Rennes in Britanny.' " Father Marquette, another Jesuit missionary and explorer"

Monday, June 2, 2014

Sans Crainte Excerpts from History of Monroe County, Michigan and Historical collections (Michigan Pioneer and Historical Society)

History of Monroe County, Michigan: A Narrative Account of Its ..., Volume 1

 By John McClelland Bulkley